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Back-focus calculator
Pick the flattener, the camera and whatever sits between them. The tool checks that every thread actually mates, adds the focus shift from your filter glass, tells you to a tenth of a millimetre what spacing is still missing, and flags where a full-frame sensor will hit a narrow bore. Every thickness links to the page it was read from. Done? Copy the whole train as Markdown or BBCode for a forum post, or download the cross-section as a PNG.
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Common trains, pre-filled (62)
Each page opens the calculator with the parts already in place — telescope or flattener, camera, wheel or drawer, filter — and the numbers worked out live from the same catalog. Grouped by the optic.
Askar
- ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe standard ZWO mono APS-C train on a 55 mm Petzval or flattener.
- ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-L (full frame)Full-frame mono: where a 2" wheel is mandatory and every bore matters.
- ASI2400MC Pro + M54 filter drawer (full frame)Full-frame colour through the wide M54 drawer, with the gap that needs filling.
- Askar SQA55 + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe small Petzval with the most popular colour APS-C camera.
- Askar SQA55 + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerWide-field colour on the 1" square sensor.
- Askar SQA55 + ASI585MC Pro + filter drawerThe budget cooled colour camera on the compact Petzval.
- Askar SQA55 + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LFull frame on a 44 mm image circle: right at the edge.
- Askar SQA85 + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe mid-size Petzval with a colour APS-C camera and a dual-band filter.
- Askar SQA85 + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LMono APS-C on the SQA85.
- Askar SQA85 (M54) + ASI6200MC Pro + M54 filter drawerFull-frame colour through M54 all the way.
- Askar SQA85 (M54) + QHY268M + CFW3 + OAG-MThe QHY mono APS-C train on an M54 Petzval.
- Askar SQA106 + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LMono APS-C on the big SQA — plenty of image circle to spare.
- Askar SQA106 (M54) + QHY600M + CFW3-L + OAG-MFull-frame QHY mono on the SQA106.
- Askar FRA300 Pro + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerThe travel Petzval with the square-sensor colour camera.
- Askar FRA400C + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerCompact f/5.6 Petzval with colour APS-C.
- Askar FRA400C + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LMono APS-C on the FRA400C.
- Askar FRA400 + OAG-L-68 + EFW 7×36 + ASI2600MM ProThe M68 Petzval with ZWO's M68 off-axis guider.
- Askar FRA500 + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LFull-frame mono on the 55 mm-image-circle FRA500.
- Askar 65PHQ + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe quintuplet at native focal length with colour APS-C.
- Askar 80PHQ + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LMono APS-C on the 80PHQ at f/7.5.
- Askar 107PHQ + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LFull-frame mono on the 107PHQ: a tight maximum.
- Askar 65PHQ + 0.75× reducer + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe 65PHQ reduced to f/4.8 with colour APS-C.
- Askar 80PHQ + 0.76× reducer + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LReduced 80PHQ with the ZWO mono train.
- Askar 107PHQ + 0.7× reducer + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LThe reduced 107PHQ with full-frame mono.
- Askar FRA400 + 0.7× reducer + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe FRA400 at f/3.9 with colour APS-C.
- Player One Poseidon-C Pro + Filter Drawer MAXThe APS-C colour camera with its own wide drawer.
William Optics
- ASI2600MC Pro + M42 filter drawer + dual-band filterOne-shot-colour APS-C with a drop-in 2" filter: the common "which extender?" question.
- WO Flat6AIII + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe GT/Zenithstar reducer-flattener with the mono train.
- WO Flat6AIII + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerThe 0.8× flattener with the square-sensor colour camera.
- WO Flat6AIII + ASI294MC Pro + filter drawerThe 4/3" colour camera on the Flat6AIII.
- WO Flat68III + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe 1.0× flattener with colour APS-C.
- WO Flat7A + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe larger 0.8× flattener with the mono APS-C train.
- WO Flat 73A + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerZenithstar 73 flattener: the one that is not 55 mm.
- WO Flat 61A + ASI585MC Pro + filter drawerZenithstar 61 flattener with the small cooled colour camera.
- WO Flat 8 (0.72×) + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe strong reducer with colour APS-C.
- WO Ultra Flat 91 + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2"The M54 reducer for the FLT 91 with full-frame mono.
ZWO
- ASI533MC Pro + M42 filter drawerThe popular square-sensor colour camera with a drop-in filter.
- ZWO FF80 + 0.76× reducer + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerZWO's own tube, reducer, camera and drawer.
- ZWO FF80 APO (native) + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe quadruplet at f/7.5 with the mono train.
- ZWO FF107 + 0.7× reducer + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LFull-frame mono on the reduced FF107.
Starizona
- Canon EOS DSLR on a T-ringWhy a DSLR "just works" at 55 mm, and when it does not.
- Starizona Apex ED 0.65× + ASI533MC ProThe T2-output reducer with the T2-fronted 533.
- Nikon Z mirrorless on a T-ringA short-flange mirrorless body still ends up at 55 mm — the T-ring makes up the difference.
- Sony E (α7 / α6000 series) on a T-ringSony's 18 mm flange plus a thick T-ring equals the same 55 mm.
Sky-Watcher
- Sky-Watcher Esprit 100 flattener + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe Esprit 100 with the standard ZWO mono train.
- Sky-Watcher Esprit 100 flattener + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerEsprit 100 with colour APS-C and a dual-band filter.
- Sky-Watcher Esprit 80 flattener + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerEsprit 80 with the square-sensor colour camera.
- Sky-Watcher Esprit 120 + 0.77× reducer + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe reduced Esprit 120 with colour APS-C.
- Sky-Watcher Esprit 150 + 0.77× reducer + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LFull frame on a reducer whose image circle says no.
- Sky-Watcher Evostar 72ED + 0.85× reducer + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerThe entry-level ED doublet with its reducer and the 533.
- Sky-Watcher Evostar 80ED + 0.85× reducer + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerEvostar 80ED reduced, with colour APS-C.
- Sky-Watcher Evostar 100ED + 0.85× reducer + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LEvostar 100ED reduced, with the mono train.
Celestron
- Celestron EdgeHD 8 + 0.7× reducer + ASI2600MC ProThe classic EdgeHD 8 reducer train with colour APS-C.
- Celestron EdgeHD 8 (native) + ASI533MC Prof/10 planetary-nebula and galaxy scale with the 1" sensor.
- Celestron EdgeHD 9.25 + 0.7× reducer + T-adapter + EFW 7×36 + ASI2600MM ProMono APS-C on the reduced 9.25 — with a wheel but no room for an OAG.
- Celestron EdgeHD 11 + 0.7× reducer + ASI2600MC ProThe big EdgeHD reduced to f/7 with colour APS-C.
Takahashi
- Takahashi FSQ-106EDX4 (prime focus) + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LThe reference astrograph at f/5 with full-frame mono.
- Takahashi FSQ-106EDX4 + 645RD 0.72× + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LThe f/3.6 configuration with full-frame mono.
- Takahashi FSQ-85EDX + 1.01× corrector + ASI2600MM Pro + EFW 7×36 + OAG-LThe "Baby Q" with its corrector and the mono APS-C train.
- Takahashi FSQ-85EDX + RD 0.73× + ASI2600MC Pro + filter drawerThe reduced Baby Q with colour APS-C.
- Takahashi FC-76DCU + 76D reducer + ASI533MC Pro + filter drawerThe travel fluorite doublet, reduced, with the 533.
- Takahashi TOA-130 + TOA-35RD + ASI6200MM Pro + EFW 7×2" + OAG-LThe TOA-130 reduced to f/5.4 with full-frame mono.
How the numbers are worked out
- Target. The flattener or reducer states a back-focus (55.0 mm for most refractor flatteners, 105 mm for the classic Celestron f/6.3 reducer, more for EdgeHD). That is the distance its rear face wants to the sensor.
- Filter compensation. Each filter in the path adds t × (n − 1) / n to the target, with n = 1.5: +0.62 mm for a 1.85 mm Optolong, +0.67 mm for 2.0 mm glass, +1.0 mm for 3.0 mm Chroma.
- Sum of parts. Filter wheel, OAG, drawer, extension rings and the camera's own sensor-to-flange distance are added, in the order you place them. If two neighbours do not share a thread standard, the matching adapter is inserted and its thickness counted too.
- Missing spacing. (target + Σ shift) − Σ parts, to 0.1 mm, then the fewest stock rings (0.3 / 0.5 / 1 / 2 / 3 / 5 / 10 / 11 / 15 / 16.5 / 20 / 21 mm) that close it.
- Vignetting. Each bore is compared with the sensor diagonal, then with the full light cone diagonal + distance / f-ratio. Smaller than the diagonal is a hard cut-off; smaller than the cone is corner fall-off that flats can mostly fix.
Honesty notes: the calculator is geometry, not optics design — it cannot tell you a flattener's true optimum for your exact telescope, which some makers tune by ±1–2 mm per model. Treat the result as the starting point, then confirm with a star test at the corners. Prices are not shown because they change daily; the shop links open a live search.
Questions people ask
- What is back-focus (back focal distance) on a field flattener or reducer?
- It is the distance from the rear mounting face of the flattener or reducer to the camera sensor at which the optic delivers a flat, corrected field. Most modern refractor flatteners are designed for 55.0 mm; Schmidt–Cassegrain reducers often need 105 mm or more. Everything you bolt in between — filter wheel, off-axis guider, drawer, adapters, the camera body itself — has to add up to that number.
- Why does a filter change the back-focus?
- Light slows down inside the glass, so a filter of thickness t pushes the focal plane back by t × (n − 1) / n. With n = 1.5 that is one third of the glass thickness: a 2.0 mm filter needs +0.67 mm more spacing, a 3.0 mm filter +1.0 mm. This tool adds that shift to the target before working out what is missing.
- How exact does the spacing need to be?
- Manufacturers usually quote ±0.5 mm, and at f/6–f/7 that is comfortable. Fast systems (f/4 and below) show star shape errors in the corners with half-millimetre mistakes, which is why 0.3 / 0.5 / 1.0 mm shim rings exist. You can tighten the tolerance in the tool; the default is ±0.5 mm.
- Does a full-frame sensor vignette through an M42 (T2) thread?
- Yes. The clear bore of an M42×0.75 thread is only about 37–38 mm, smaller than the 43.3 mm diagonal of a full-frame sensor, so the extreme corners are physically cut off whatever the f-ratio. M48 passes the diagonal but still clips the light cone of faster systems; M54 and larger are the safe choice for full frame.
- Where do the component thicknesses come from?
- Every entry in the catalog carries the URL of the manufacturer specification (or, where the maker publishes none, a retailer listing) it was read from, plus the retrieval date. Items that could not be verified are kept out of the pickers rather than guessed. Measure your own parts with calipers before buying shims — production tolerances exist.